Navarra was the first to release the "2010-2011-back-to-school record" in Spain, with the highest number of enrolled students in history.There has been an increase of about 1,9% of non-university education students compared to last year. This is an important fact, and it also coincides with the government stakes in education, such as the increase of nursery education, vocational training or the effort to keep young teenagers studying after the compulsory stage. Most of the students are going to study in state (67,6%) and subsidized (25,8%) schools,and only 6,6 of the students will attend class in public schools, but the highest rise has taken place in vocational training with 34.452 more students than last year, which means a 6,4% increase. There is also a very important number of students who have decided to do their vocational training online, 72 %, and this has been reinforced since the Ministry of Education and the Autonomous Communities created an online platform last spring. The regions that have had the highest increase of students in the last ten years are Navarra, Cataluña, Madrid and the Baleares Islands.On the contrary, those regions that are on the decrease are Asturias, Galicia, Extremadura and Castilla y León.
My opinion about this information: More and more people have chosen to send their children to state and subsidised schools because, at the end of the day,they come out with a very similar level to students who choose public education. Nowadays, if you don´t have good vocational training, it can be quite difficult to find a job because of the crisis we are slowly recovering from.To sum up, there aren´t many job offers and if there are, they are filled by people who have good CVs or those who have plenty of work experience. I strongly believe this rise in higher education is due to people who can´t find any jobs or those who have a job but aren´t entirely satisfied with what they are doing.
"Most of the students are going to study in state (67,6%) and subsidized (25,8%) schools,and only 6,6 of the students will attend class in public schools..."
I think that perhaps you meant that only 6,6% students will attend private schools. Anyway, I was curious to to know how the breakdown of percentages (between the three types of schools) has changed since last year.
According to a report from the Ministry of Education (see link below), in the 2009/2010 academic year, Navarra had 65,7% in public schools, but it doesn't give the exact percentage for charter schools and private schools. Anyway, it seems there was a 2% increase of students enrolled in public schools. I'm glad to see this is the trend, because I am an advocate of public schools because I think that public funds should be destined exclusively to public schools. I hope to see public education on the rise next year, too.
Here is the link to the report I mentioned earlier. It's very interesting. Enjoy!
I think all these increases are due to the economic crisis that nowadays devastates Spain.
On one hand is it a great news that there was an increase of children who attend to the nursery and the public education because that means that people continue sending there children to the public nursery and school in spite of their situation and it is proof that people don’t think that the public education is worse that private education. This is a false idea.
On the other hand it is good that there is an increase of the vocational training because that means that the young people want to continue studying; however these increase maybe is due to the fact that still there are some people who’d rather do vocational training or do online vocational training because they are unemployed and they don’t want to waste their time doing nothing.
In spite of these pieces of information I am hopefully that all these people get by and get their aims in a few years when the economic crisis passes and all those people, that like me, have studied vocational training can get by and the general situation gets better.
kate)) I know it might confuse you.. but in britain (in London,because in Scotland it´s different) subsidized schools are concertados, state schools are publicos and public schools are privados... I know this might seem a little awkward but I think that is the name it has been given to them. thanks for the additional information!
I think this situation is caused by the global crisis. The reason is that people think that private education is better than public education and i don´t think so; young people have to prepare theirselves better and in this way in the future, when the crisis ends, the public education will be one of the best of Europe.
As far as I know, the public and subsidized schools have better technological means, the more variety of extracurricular activities, and if we speak of bilingualism, private schools are bilingual in years. In many cases, the study at a private university, it gives you more options to find jobs rather than the other, by the employment exchange they have. After all this does not mean to support schools or private universities, on the contrary I think we have to fight to have equal options.
In my opinion this is normal. People wants to get a job quick, they dont have to be 4 years in the university because then, they dont have job, so...
But i´m not agree with this because to do vocational training dont means that u are going to work in the best job of the world. To do this just for to get job quick is not a good idea.
In the other hand i guess it happens because the "crisis". If the people has not job, they prefer to invest his time studying to be able to have more possibilities at the moment of returning to the labor world.
Finally about the regions that have had the highest increase of students, I think is because the industry is more developed than in other regions where there are fewer job opportunities and therefore not so much work.
I am not really agree. In Cataluña state education is really bad so there is a big difference with public education. There is a lot of people that choose state education cause is cheaper but they know that the level is different. However, there's some state schools that have a good level but is really difficult get place because everybody wants it. In conclusion I think Spanish education should offer state schools and public school but both with the same level.
As far as I know, in Andalucia state education is not good enough. They have a lower level than subsidized schools or public schools. People always try to get to subsidized schools because they have good and cheap education. If you could not get to it you have to options. Pay a lot of money for a good education in a public school or have a bad education in a state school. I hate this situacion because it is hard to get to a good education if you can't pay a public school because the space is limited, so I think the same than Carla, Spanish Education should offer state schools and public school but both with the same level.
I think that the new plan of university students is a bit confused, and some people doesn’t like the idea of spend four years at the university. In my opinion, the crisis is not a one factor, because now when you are more formatted more possibilities are to find a good job, or a job related of what you like. So people is getting more and more formatted to find a job. And related to the public education, I think that a public school is like a private one, and in most of the cases better. I’ve never been to a private one,(untill now) and I have the same level that the people who where into a private school.
All this situacion is due to the crisis. I think that the students isnt accord with the new project that Spain is doing in this moment with the education. I believe that all the students should can choose the university that they want. I think that the young people want study in the university because they expect have a good job in the future. The private or the public education is indifferent. The students want study similar!
In my opinion against this article, I think you should continue taking these different options with respect to education, public or private subencionada, because in some places public education is not enough, or there is difference in other students in any case always an option for each. As for the increment of fees in education both at school level, such as vocational training is emerging about the situation we are living in Spain in recent years, and people want to train as much as possible to find a job because having difficulty finding jobs, choose the most prepared.
The crisis, the time and the people. maybe for some families is better find a job fast. We are in the school (obligatory) 13 years, 15 years with "Bachillerato" and 19 years with our carrer. Is too much time, 1/4 of our lifes.
I really don´t think that Private educatin is better than public. The crisis is making us to loose our vision of future. I still believe that the quality of what children learn is totally related with the teacher, no matter public or private education. It is the teacher's mission to make students have a goal in ther life helping 'em to reach it with the propper tools.
I'm agree with your opinion Ailie,nowadays, to have an education is very important and crucial, because if you haven't got any university graduates or qualifications will be much more difficult to find a good job.
In my opinion, in some places like in Castilla La Mancha is not much difference between private and public at the time of the level, the government also helps in buying books, since it benefits in which they are provided.
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ReplyDeleteNavarra was the first to release the "2010-2011-back-to-school record" in Spain, with the highest number of enrolled students in history.There has been an increase of about 1,9% of non-university education students compared to last year.
This is an important fact, and it also coincides with the government stakes in education, such as the increase of nursery education, vocational training or the effort to keep young teenagers studying after the compulsory stage.
Most of the students are going to study in state (67,6%) and subsidized (25,8%) schools,and only 6,6 of the students will attend class in public schools, but the highest rise has taken place in vocational training with 34.452 more students than last year, which means a 6,4% increase.
There is also a very important number of students who have decided to do their vocational training online, 72 %, and this has been reinforced since the Ministry of Education and the Autonomous Communities created an online platform last spring.
The regions that have had the highest increase of students in the last ten years are Navarra, Cataluña, Madrid and the Baleares Islands.On the contrary, those regions that are on the decrease are Asturias, Galicia, Extremadura and Castilla y León.
My opinion about this information:
More and more people have chosen to send their children to state and subsidised schools because, at the end of the day,they come out with a very similar level to students who choose public education.
Nowadays, if you don´t have good vocational training, it can be quite difficult to find a job because of the crisis we are slowly recovering from.To sum up, there aren´t many job offers and if there are, they are filled by people who have good CVs or those who have plenty of work experience.
I strongly believe this rise in higher education is due to people who can´t find any jobs or those who have a job but aren´t entirely satisfied with what they are doing.
I'm a bit confused about this part:
ReplyDelete"Most of the students are going to study in state (67,6%) and subsidized (25,8%) schools,and only 6,6 of the students will attend class in public schools..."
I think that perhaps you meant that only 6,6% students will attend private schools. Anyway, I was curious to to know how the breakdown of percentages (between the three types of schools) has changed since last year.
According to a report from the Ministry of Education (see link below), in the 2009/2010 academic year, Navarra had 65,7% in public schools, but it doesn't give the exact percentage for charter schools and private schools. Anyway, it seems there was a 2% increase of students enrolled in public schools. I'm glad to see this is the trend, because I am an advocate of public schools because I think that public funds should be destined exclusively to public schools. I hope to see public education on the rise next year, too.
Here is the link to the report I mentioned earlier. It's very interesting. Enjoy!
http://www.educacion.es/dctm/ministerio/horizontales/prensa/documentos/2010/septiembre/datos-y-cifras-2010-2011.indd.pdf?documentId=0901e72b803eceed
I think all these increases are due to the economic crisis that nowadays devastates Spain.
ReplyDeleteOn one hand is it a great news that there was an increase of children who attend to the nursery and the public education because that means that people continue sending there children to the public nursery and school in spite of their situation and it is proof that people don’t think that the public education is worse that private education. This is a false idea.
On the other hand it is good that there is an increase of the vocational training because that means that the young people want to continue studying; however these increase maybe is due to the fact that still there are some people who’d rather do vocational training or do online vocational training because they are unemployed and they don’t want to waste their time doing nothing.
In spite of these pieces of information I am hopefully that all these people get by and get their aims in a few years when the economic crisis passes and all those people, that like me, have studied vocational training can get by and the general situation gets better.
kate)) I know it might confuse you.. but in britain (in London,because in Scotland it´s different) subsidized schools are concertados, state schools are publicos and public schools are privados... I know this might seem a little awkward but I think that is the name it has been given to them.
ReplyDeletethanks for the additional information!
I think this situation is caused by the global crisis.
ReplyDeleteThe reason is that people think that private education is better than public education and i don´t think so; young people have to prepare theirselves better and in this way in the future, when the crisis ends, the public education will be one of the best of Europe.
As far as I know, the public and subsidized schools have better technological means, the more variety of extracurricular activities, and if we speak of bilingualism, private schools are bilingual in years.
ReplyDeleteIn many cases, the study at a private university, it gives you more options to find jobs rather than the other, by the employment exchange they have.
After all this does not mean to support schools or private universities, on the contrary I think we have to fight to have equal options.
In my opinion this is normal. People wants to get a job quick, they dont have to be 4 years in the university because then, they dont have job, so...
ReplyDeleteBut i´m not agree with this because to do vocational training dont means that u are going to work in the best job of the world.
To do this just for to get job quick is not a good idea.
In the other hand i guess it happens because the "crisis". If the people has not job, they prefer to invest his time studying to be able to have more possibilities at the moment of returning to the labor world.
Finally about the regions that have had the highest increase of students, I think is because the industry is more developed than in other regions where there are fewer job opportunities and therefore not so much work.
I am not really agree.
ReplyDeleteIn Cataluña state education is really bad so there is a big difference with public education. There is a lot of people that choose state education cause is cheaper but they know that the level is different. However, there's some state schools that have a good level but is really difficult get place because everybody wants it. In conclusion I think Spanish education should offer state schools and public school but both with the same level.
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ReplyDeleteAs far as I know, in Andalucia state education is not good enough. They have a lower level than subsidized schools or public schools. People always try to get to subsidized schools because they have good and cheap education. If you could not get to it you have to options. Pay a lot of money for a good education in a public school or have a bad education in a state school.
ReplyDeleteI hate this situacion because it is hard to get to a good education if you can't pay a public school because the space is limited, so I think the same than Carla, Spanish Education should offer state schools and public school but both with the same level.
I think that the new plan of university students is a bit confused, and some people doesn’t like the idea of spend four years at the university.
ReplyDeleteIn my opinion, the crisis is not a one factor, because now when you are more formatted more possibilities are to find a good job, or a job related of what you like. So people is getting more and more formatted to find a job.
And related to the public education, I think that a public school is like a private one, and in most of the cases better. I’ve never been to a private one,(untill now) and I have the same level that the people who where into a private school.
All this situacion is due to the crisis. I think that the students isnt accord with the new project that Spain is doing in this moment with the education. I believe that all the students should can choose the university that they want. I think that the young people want study in the university because they expect have a good job in the future. The private or the public education is indifferent.
ReplyDeleteThe students want study similar!
In my opinion against this article, I think you should continue taking these different options with respect to education, public or private subencionada, because in some places public education is not enough, or there is difference in other students in any case always an option for each.
ReplyDeleteAs for the increment of fees in education both at school level, such as vocational training is emerging about the situation we are living in Spain in recent years, and people want to train as much as possible to find a job because having difficulty finding jobs, choose the most prepared.
The crisis, the time and the people. maybe for some families is better find a job fast. We are in the school (obligatory) 13 years, 15 years with "Bachillerato" and 19 years with our carrer. Is too much time, 1/4 of our lifes.
ReplyDeleteI really don´t think that Private educatin is better than public.
ReplyDeleteThe crisis is making us to loose our vision of future.
I still believe that the quality of what children learn is totally related with the teacher, no matter public or private education.
It is the teacher's mission to make students have a goal in ther life helping 'em to reach it with the propper tools.
I'm agree with your opinion Ailie,nowadays, to have an education is very important and crucial, because if you haven't got any university graduates or qualifications will be much more difficult to find a good job.
ReplyDeleteIn my opinion, in some places like in Castilla La Mancha is not much difference between private and public at the time of the level, the government also helps in buying books, since it benefits in which they are provided.
ReplyDelete